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Posted: November 01 2004 at 2:15pm | IP Logged Quote JohnK

This topic has come up on the edges of other conversations, lovesrugers suggested it as a poll and it seemed like a good idea.

Have you ever bought a firearm with the intent to not shoot it?
Never, all my firearms are shooters
I have a few collection pieces that I won't shoot
I regularly buy firearms as collectors not shooters

So far all of my guns have been shooters. Ones that might be collectors generally don't generally interest me as far as purchasing goes, for example I'm not going to spend several hundred or thousand dollars on an old SAA, I'd rather buy a few other guns that I can take out and shoot.

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Posted: November 01 2004 at 4:03pm | IP Logged Quote Brandon

Where is the poll?

I have one gun that is still unfired in the display case, but recently I changed my mind, and it will be fired many times as soon as I get dies, brass, bullets and suck.
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Posted: November 01 2004 at 4:07pm | IP Logged Quote JohnK

That's what I get for putting up a poll when sick. The poll is on the front page.

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Posted: November 01 2004 at 4:48pm | IP Logged Quote joed

I shoot everything I own. In fact I look down on those who don't there guns with disdain.   One only has to go to the S&W forum to see "Safe Queens".   

Almost every topic is "show me your XXXX" and then a bunch of pictures the buffoons took of the guns after taking them out of the safe.

My heirs can worry about the value of my used guns and they are starting to add up now.
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Posted: November 01 2004 at 6:13pm | IP Logged Quote Tony Mig

I shoot everything, and I won't buy a gun that can't be shot, or is too valuble to shoot. I even shoot the old Colt Frontier Scout I inherited from my late father. To me, guns are ment to be used and enjoyed....nothing against those who feel differently, one man's passion is another man's poison.....

As a guitar player, I know many who buy expensive custom shop guitars by Martin, Fender, Gibson, and Paul Reed Smith only to put them behind glass, and never play them....to me that's a total waist of a good guitar, but they are the one's shelling out thousands of dollars for a peice of wall furnature, and that's their business....

Heck..who am I to judge....

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Posted: November 01 2004 at 6:50pm | IP Logged Quote J Miller

All of my guns are shootable. I won't buy a gun I can't shoot. I have some that are in the "shot very little" catagory, but they do get shot.

Guns were designed and made to be shot. Taking care of them and being carefull with old valuable guns is fine, but hiding them away goes against my grain.


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Posted: November 01 2004 at 8:14pm | IP Logged Quote 454fever

To me, buying a gun you can't shoot is like marrying a woman you can't sleep with...It makes no sense....Anytime I'm going to plunk down my hard earned coin on something, I'm going to make suer I get my use out of it...otherwise, I feel it's money that's wasted...remember ladies and gentlemen, they don't make a herse with a luggage rack!!

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Posted: November 01 2004 at 11:35pm | IP Logged Quote lovesrugers

The only guns I will not shoot are ones that are broken or are in some kind of condition that prevents them from shooting. I can't stand people who buy guns just to lock them up and never handle them or shoot them.

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Posted: November 02 2004 at 2:00am | IP Logged Quote Detroit Jay 2

I am with you guys I want guns I can shoot and enjoy. My father has a few older friends that keep trying to sell me thier safe queens. Some are intresting but most dont intrest me. I cant afford Lugers, or these engraved guns they have. I would rather have a shooter like a 50AE Desert Eagle than a Luger that sits in the safe.   

Although I do have a gun I have never fired yet. About 6 years ago when the French Mas bolt action 1936 came in the country, I picked up an arsonal refinish for $49 at a local gun show(the dealer had a palet of them in the boxes). At the time ammo was around $2 a shot but if I passed this rifle up I would regreat it later. Now you can get FNM ammo for .50 shot. I should get some ammo and clean the cosmoline out of the barrel. Now Lee makes dies for this one.
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 6:00am | IP Logged Quote Flint

Another vote to purchasing only guns with the intent to use them for the purpose for which they were created. I have two guns that I don't shoot...an old Winchester pump that belonged to my wifes father and is no longer safe to shoot, and a 8mm Lebel Berthier carbine that my father sent back when he was in France during WWII...and isn't in good enough shape to shoot safely. All others in the safe get fired...including all of my old S&W .32's and .38's. If I can't take it too the range, and it has no family history, than I'm not interested. "I shoot, therefore I am".
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 11:34am | IP Logged Quote mikej

I've never bought a gun that I didn't intend to shoot. I do have one in the safe, an original Winchester 1895 in 30-GOVT 06, that I bought with the intention of hunting with. It's in about 95-98% condition, and it's value has risen astronomically the past few years. Once my wife found out what it is worth, it's been a safe queen as far as hunting goes. I do get it out to the range two or three times a year and shoot some mild loads through it. One of these days its going to help finance a trip to Africa.

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Posted: November 02 2004 at 5:44pm | IP Logged Quote ribbonstone

Yep..have bougth some not to shoot (but they have to be
ABLE to shoot). Have shot most of them a time or two,
but it's mostly a "stunt" just to prove they still can.
A couple haven't been shot, and probably won't be.

Don't know what it is...didn't buy them to resell them,
so it's not a matter of increasing value. Didn't buy
them to just look at them, they aren't in open displays
like brick-a-brack or coffee table books. Guess I
bought them becasue historically, there were "there"
(and that's illusion...are of the right age and type,
but not attibutided to anyone, so they could more
easily have spent their time peacefully in some dresser
rather than out shooting Yankees or Indians).
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I guess I am the odd ball here, I have purchased many rifles that I have no intensions of shooting. Let me explain, living most of my life in S. Ca. you really can't do a lot of shooting, so I started collecting U.S. Mil. weapons. I look at them more as works of art than weapons of war. Will I shoot my Revolutionary War flintlock, no, but I do shoot my repoduction Brown Bess.Same with my Spencer or my M1842. I have shot all of my trap doors, M1896 30/40 Kraig, M1903 (Mfg 1917), M1917, and my M1 just to see how they would shoot. Since moving to Texas 3 years ago, I have purchased 5 rifles and 2 pistols that are shot on a regular basis. I just don't see the point in shooting a vintage weapon when there are so many repoductions available.

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Posted: November 02 2004 at 7:07pm | IP Logged Quote dison

I think Im with most of you guys. I absolutely refuse to buy a gun that I cant shoot because its too old or because its too expensive. I shoot several hundred rounds a month on average, & I spread it out among my guns. I have a couple guns that I dont shoot much, but they do get shot.
I have a reproduction 1851 Navy that I dont shoot anymore, because the timing is way off, & I cant see paying a gunsmith to work on a $90 gun.
I work too hard for my money to spend my shooting budget on something to look at. If I want a wall hanger, I'll buy a picture.
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 7:44pm | IP Logged Quote GasMan

I don't buy guns I'm not plannning to shoot, although I do have a few that get fired only infrequently - don't want to cause too much wear. My neighbor always brags to me about all the rifles and pistols he has squirrelled away, new in the box, had 'em for years, never been fired, doesn't plan to. And these are not collectors' items, they are mostly just production guns, now 15-20 yrs old. As each year goes by, he is more determined not to fire them, won't even hear of selling them. I never did understand it. What's the point?
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 7:56pm | IP Logged Quote JohnK

GasMan wrote:
My neighbor always brags to me about all the rifles and pistols he has squirrelled away, new in the box, had 'em for years, never been fired, doesn't plan to. And these are not collectors' items, they are mostly just production guns, now 15-20 yrs old.


I'm glad there are people like that, that's how I got a NIB 357 Redhawk, from someone who squirrled it away in a safe and never shot it.

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Posted: November 04 2004 at 1:01pm | IP Logged Quote Rod WMG

Firearms are manufactured to be fired, aren't they?
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Posted: November 04 2004 at 5:24pm | IP Logged Quote warmwater

I have a 1941 johnson 30-06 that i put in the Murray State University mueasum.They have it in thier ww11 desplay.They only rely on these guns on loan to show others what are forefathers carried in to all battles.Many people have theirs there and im proud to show one.As of this writing im getting the m1 grand ready to go with his big brother.

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Posted: November 04 2004 at 7:26pm | IP Logged Quote Paul5388

I haven't ever bought a gun with the intention of not firing it. I never had the money for such and I didn't/don't have room to store such.

I do have three guns that may be collectable, but they weren't NIB when I got them, so I shoot the ones that are safe to shoot. If the Parker SxS I have would have a functioning safety, I would shoot it too. I have a Beretta Silver Snipe that has been through a fire and burnt the wood. I'm thinking real hard about fixing it, just to shoot.
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Posted: November 06 2004 at 7:34am | IP Logged Quote gstanfield

The only gun I have that I probably won't shoot is my Parker SxS 12ga that was made in 1885. It is a high grade (fancy one) that I ended up with on a trade and didn't really intend to get, but I like it and won't be shooting it any time soon. The gun was appraised and the guy classed it as being in approximately 90% condition and for a gun that is 119 years old it looks immaculate. All my other guns will and do get shot as much as I can find the time for, including all my special editions and anniversary models.

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